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Councilor: Thomas

Bill: Repeal the Uniform Mandate


Bill Stage: Open to Voting on 5/4/11

Bill Proposal:

As some of you may know, we had passed a uniform bill almost a year ago. While a contest had been held to select the design, all designs had been rejected by the Council for various valid reasons, and thus it had laid dormat.

Recently, Senior Councilor Sheila had attempted to recreate a "Fan Service" outline of uniforms. While I respect her initiative, the design had an overwhelmingly negative response from the whole of 0134. As that we have again fail to find a design that is suitable for work, and finding that many of our Agents and Enforcers are against the idea of an uniform and find it demoralizing...

I propose that the original mandate to be repealed, and the funds that were held up in the Bill's code to be freed up to whichever department is in the most need of Platinum.

Date: 2011-04-28 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingofdisney.livejournal.com
Wait. We actually had a uniform bill passed?

Date: 2011-04-28 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingofdisney.livejournal.com
... How can you pass a bill requiring uniforms if no one wants the designs?

Date: 2011-04-28 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-an-otaku.livejournal.com
The designing and selecting of uniforms was done after the initial bill was passed.

Date: 2011-04-28 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingofdisney.livejournal.com
They were all that horrible?

Date: 2011-04-29 03:24 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-28 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highondaylight.livejournal.com
I must admit that I would prefer to see the establishment of proper uniforms for CO business among Agents and Enforcers - of nothing else, for appearance's sake amongst other divisions.

However, you are correct that no design has yet proven adequate to our needs.

Date: 2011-04-28 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-an-otaku.livejournal.com
A uniform isn't something an organization like ours should have to begin with. The last thing we want to do is stand out in any one particular non-integrated world and actually be recognized.

Even if it's just something to wear around CO and integrated worlds, it's just an inconvenience.

Date: 2011-04-28 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dojikko-by-day.livejournal.com
Oh, that's an easy one. Make it a small badge, even a dragon can wear it around their claw. I think everyone could agree to the uniform just being a badge, right?

Date: 2011-04-28 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] still-an-otaku.livejournal.com
... I think we should just stick with voting aye for this bill.

Date: 2011-04-29 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highondaylight.livejournal.com
Actually, I rather like the badge idea. Perhaps we should introduce that in a later bill, Kazumi?

Date: 2011-04-28 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dojikko-by-day.livejournal.com
I'll vote for it! I mean, I'll vote for the proposal against it, so by that I'll vote against it by voting for yours.

Right?

Date: 2011-04-28 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dojikko-by-day.livejournal.com
Good. Just making sure I'll vote for the right thing. Against it, right?

Date: 2011-04-28 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dojikko-by-day.livejournal.com
So I don't repeal yours but theirs by agreeing to yours.

I'll make sure to make myself a note!

Date: 2011-04-28 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-pantywaist.livejournal.com
[Papierwaite stands, holding up his PDA as usual, helping Dr. Norrington voice his opinions. The councilor has never physically appeared in any of these meetings ever.]

Now, that is just foolish. Here we are, after having struggled for a uniform mandate, we're working to undo it after a series of lackluster, mediocre designs.

The problem isn't with the bill itself, but rather, the designs and the designers. How can we simply give up without having tested the bill first? Not to mention, it would be nice to show a bit of uniformity during multi-worldly events or the like. You know, for professionalism's sake.

Date: 2011-04-28 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dojikko-by-day.livejournal.com
Come to think of it...you have a point.

I think I'll vote for the bill. Maybe. I think.

Date: 2011-04-28 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-pantywaist.livejournal.com
Actually, Councilor, I plan on voting against this bill, hence my argument.

Date: 2011-04-28 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dojikko-by-day.livejournal.com
Against the uniform bill? But you just made an argument for it.

Date: 2011-04-28 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-pantywaist.livejournal.com
No, no, I was in support of the uniform bill. This bill is meant to get rid of the uniform bill. Papierwaite, be a dear and write up a memo for the good Councilor.

[Taking a notepad out from his pocket, Papierwaite quickly jotted down a few words.

Vote Yes > Against Uniforms

Vote No > Pro-Uniforms ]

I believe that should help you with the decision-making process, Councilor.

Date: 2011-04-28 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dojikko-by-day.livejournal.com
Oh, that helps, thank you very much.

[She took the note, and bowed.]

Date: 2011-04-28 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-pantywaist.livejournal.com
And if people are so against uniforms, it's not as though it needs to be a regular custom; however, would it be fitting for all of us to dress so casually when meeting with ambassadors from different worlds?

Take Papierwaite, for example. He wears nothing but that bathrobe of his everywhere. It's utterly indecent.


Sir, as I have told you before, this is not a bathrobe, it is a suit! ... but I had it tailored to be very soft like one...

Utterly indecent.

Date: 2011-04-28 11:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] phobophage
I'm completely against the lack of interesting variety. I like this bill.

Date: 2011-04-29 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gegege-no-ge.livejournal.com
It does seem to be rather pointless to keep on the books. Anyway, I was against this bill from the start! How could my Kitaro keep his normal equipment with such a rule in place?

Date: 2011-04-29 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saint-sami.livejournal.com
...I hadn't known about something like this, but if a rule like it had been implemented and not actually enacted, then it should be removed as soon as possible, or at least remedied.

Date: 2011-04-30 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-pantywaist.livejournal.com
The issue isn't with the bill itself, Councilor Sasami, but with how it was managed. A fanservice bill? It's obvious from the start that nobody was taking this seriously.

The only modifications that I would ask for is that councilors or whoever is in charge of managing the bill to put some care into their work, I mean, really!

And tell me the truth. If you were an ambassador from a different world, would you want to see Papierwaite wearing his usual bathrobe?


Dr. Norrington, please! This is not a bathrobe!

Date: 2011-05-10 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-that-shady.livejournal.com
"Really, I've never been in favor of this travesty. Not even for any of the typical arguments of 'morale' and 'uniformity.'

"Many of the jobs the Agents and Enforcers have to do involve blending in. Official uniforms would be pointless there because they'd stick out in their everyday patrols and duties, and ultimately those things would be relegated to dress uniforms for special occasions, IF that.

"And anyway, who here wants to have to wear the designs of of ONE person, who lived in ONE world and used that worlds' dress sensibility? It would be like everyone in this council chamber having to wear the robes of the Twilight Court. The bill in all its previous incarnations is convoluted, pointless and allows no real avenue for creativity even on the part of the designers."
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